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By now it's such a habit that I don't even know why.

I guess it's because I can find whatever I want whenever I want it.
I mean, I still pay for TV even though I barely ever watch it. I just grab everything of the net.
I pay for streaming services but I still download everything and end up ripping music from set streaming services <_<

+ If you don't live in the US, the amount of legal content you have access to is limited and varies wildly from country to country.

Take Crunchyroll for example.
I constantly hear people praising that service to high heavens but in my country there's barely anything on there.
Crunchyroll is only good if you pay for the service. The advertising more than pays for the site, but the service directly goes to the anime industry (which everyone says is dying). They don't even cover all currently airing anime with the service though as some places won't sell them the rights forcing a second or third service from Funimation or the like. And at that point paying 3 monthly subscriptions for anime alone becomes costly. You get as good of upload times, less ads and all the content from other streaming sites for free, so no one should be praising CR, but it is a step in the right direction for combating piracy.
 
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For me there's simply no legal way to watch most of the content I'm interested.
I'm living in Germany, I simply prefer typical US holy wood style movies and TV show.
There's no legal way to watch US TV for me and German TV is not an option (In most cases I prefer the original English audio track, which is usually not included by German TV stations). Besides that many shows are only available in the US TV or have some delays until them make it to German TV).
besides I prefer to pay for content instead of having to watch ads.
Buying/renting DVDs/BlueRays is not an option for me either (outdated technology, released to late, no storage room, ...).
I usually go to the cinema with friends/girl friend 1-3 times a month for social reasons. But I would prefer my home cinema any time.
Streaming is the future, I have a amazon prime subscription and had a Netflix account (until they went after VPN users).
I'm still waiting for a more complete offer than netflix/amazon which also allows streaming of current cinema movies with original audio.
Until then pirating and streaming it via emby is so much easier for me.
 
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Basically since I am a university student all my money is spent on food overpriced accommodation and fines. And the occasional book needed for my course. I have no money spare for Movies or downloading music so the simple answer is torrenting. :D
 
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So unfair. When I was a student we had to make do with some blogspot RAR files lol till TPB came round :) Good times though.

Nowadays mostly torrenting due to stuff that would otherwise be largely unavailable. The materials themselves are often out of production, and even if they aren't, it's either a huge hassle or borderline impossible getting them over here. On top of that stuff is often overpriced while it remains to be seen whether or not I think the products are actually worth that or not.
 

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I started in the old dialup BBS days, before the internet was generally available. Eventually joined an fxp group, was active there for years. Torrents are a bit safer, but of course there is always some risk. Safety in numbers.

My wife likes a lot of UK shows, so much of what I download and seed is from abroad - things we may never see broadcast here.
 

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I started in the old dialup BBS days, before the internet was generally available. Eventually joined an fxp group, was active there for years. Torrents are a bit safer, but of course there is always some risk. Safety in numbers.

My wife likes a lot of UK shows, so much of what I download and seed is from abroad - things we may never see broadcast here.

Are torrents safer than a FXP or FTP group?i thought the other way around?
 

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I was part of a BBS for a bit, its was such a pain in the ass compared to now.
I remember queuing up for the Phantom Menace in grainy .asf on irc channels on my dialup 3 kbs connection. It took the better part of a week per movie.

Not everything is better now though. Pre-Lars Napster still blows away any piracy method currently available.

I guess i still torrent because I'm used to it. That and the reliability. I mean, TPB is still up after all. Not that I use it anymore, but I'm glad its there. It's the torrenting canary. If another app as user friendly as napster or kazaa (with a malware screening feature) came along and I was confident it wouldn't get shut down I would probably use that instead.
 

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Torrenting became a habit in some way, met many great people from the environment, but wide content is still the main reason I guess. Movies are too expensive, Spotify would be ok for the music needs, as you can get a premium account for like 1,5$/month in a family package, but you can't use it anywhere. I like to keep some FLACs on my DAP. Too bad what.cd died, hopefully waffles won't.
 

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So many companies hate piracy, but they cannot provide a better experience. Having sonarr autodl new series that are encoded to perfection with no ads or commercials cannot compare to paying for an ad-ridden cable experience. Exclusivity being another issue, where some shows are restricted to certain networks. Why deal with that when trackers deliver everything, and with that, for free? At this rate, piracy is never going to stop being attractive.
 

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Really interesting thread.

Its true, torrenting has taken a nosedive of late but i don't think it will ever die off completely.

For me, its access to very specialist niches as I am a rabid learner of new skills, business ideas, personal growth, documentaries and the like.

It's having access to practically anything you want at the click of a button, and thats pretty fricking cool. Even though that would never be potentiated, the thought of that gives me an added 'edge' over people who would have to search for whatever they wanted, then go ahead and part with some serious cash for it.

Don't get me wrong I've spent thousands on good products and digital media aswell, but in most cases I like to try before I buy.

At really close knit communities, you also get a sense of belonging.. and for those of you who have staffed at a tracker or forum - an uncanny sense of power....
 

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I've spent some currency on media or access to it but way less the any of my peer's for me it's just a personal hobby in the comfort of my own home. :) I also reject the idea some how I am stealing after all I grew up downloading on Napster and now some how it's theft lol morals change like laws when convenient such nonsense it all is.
 

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I've spent some currency on media or access to it but way less the any of my peer's for me it's just a personal hobby in the comfort of my own home. :) I also reject the idea some how I am stealing after all I grew up downloading on Napster and now some how it's theft lol morals change like laws when convenient such nonsense it all is.
It was already theft when you used Napster.
 

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It was already theft when you used Napster.
The law is way behind when it comes to technology even if that were the case at least in the USA many like myself still don't believe in this concept of theft from a download it's digital bit for bit. It's hard to argue theft where a resource isn't being used in the process original is still in tact. :)
 

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The law is way behind when it comes to technology even if that were the case at least in the USA many like myself still don't believe in this concept of theft from a download it's digital bit for bit. It's hard to argue theft where a resource isn't being used in the process original is still in tact. :)
Whether or not you believe in a concept has absolutely no effect on its truth or legal status. Theft is not just "intention to permanently deprive", but also "appropriation of property belonging to another". And the latter one is definitely happening in case of illegal downloads.

Do I personally care about the laws I violate in the process of acquiring the movies or albums I like? Absolutely not. Do I think that the way how copyright works legally these days is flawed? Absolutely. But that doesn't change the fact that I am breaking the law.
 
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I torrent because it's the only way from me to find the niche content I want. Some music in specific formats with the best possible quality with booklet and CD scans or finding that one show with a specific encode that I know will run amazing with my computer are some the things I like. I cannot find these types of things by purely just buying the content. And also it's mostly due to the part at the end of it all it's free and that's what all of torrenting or pirating comes to. It's is most appealing aspect to people is the fact that it's the one way to get any type of media through a few clicks, instead of having to put in actual money and effort into getting the specific kind of media.
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Basically since I am a university student all my money is spent on food overpriced accommodation and fines. And the occasional book needed for my course. I have no money spare for Movies or downloading music so the simple answer is torrenting. :D
Yeah it's the same with me. I work a part time job while going to school and with a car, rent, and food costs I barely scrap up any money to be able to afford any media, thus torrenting is the only way.
 
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I torrent because it's the only way from me to find the niche content I want. Some music in specific formats with the best possible quality with booklet and CD scans or finding that one show with a specific encode that I know will run amazing with my computer are some the things I like. I cannot find these types of things by purely just buying the content. And also it's mostly due to the part at the end of it all it's free and that's what all of torrenting or pirating comes to. It's is most appealing aspect to people is the fact that it's the one way to get any type of media through a few clicks, instead of having to put in actual money and effort into getting the specific kind of media.
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Yeah it's the same with me. I work a part time job while going to school and with a car, rent, and food costs I barely scrap up any money to be able to afford any media, thus torrenting is the only way.
Economics for sure many of us are not people who live in castles ... When politician's start following laws then I agree we should also until then I don't care about copyright bs.
 
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For me there's simply no legal way to watch most of the content I'm interested.
I'm living in Germany, I simply prefer typical US holy wood style movies and TV show.
There's no legal way to watch US TV for me and German TV is not an option (In most cases I prefer the original English audio track, which is usually not included by German TV stations). Besides that many shows are only available in the US TV or have some delays until them make it to German TV).
besides I prefer to pay for content instead of having to watch ads.
Buying/renting DVDs/BlueRays is not an option for me either (outdated technology, released to late, no storage room, ...).
I usually go to the cinema with friends/girl friend 1-3 times a month for social reasons. But I would prefer my home cinema any time.
Streaming is the future, I have a amazon prime subscription and had a Netflix account (until they went after VPN users).
I'm still waiting for a more complete offer than netflix/amazon which also allows streaming of current cinema movies with original audio.
Until then pirating and streaming it via emby is so much easier for me.
Couldn't have put it any better. I'm from Switzerland and we don't even get proper Amazon Prime Video here. I do use Netflix whenever I can but I miss the VPN/SmartDNS days. I would pay good money for a legal streaming solution that can compete with an automated Plex setup.
Torrents because I think p2p is the way to go for sharing data and it seems to be the best technical solution at the moment.
 
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Like some, it's for economy reasons.

In Brazil things are way expensive and the general wage is too low for keeping a family running in a healthy situation. The funny part is that we have piracy hand by hand, not only on digital products, but physical as well. It's just impossible to buy everything retail and legit and expect to have some money to pay the bills. It's just too much taxes. News channels always are blaming our piracy tendency but they always avoid the problems that leads to that.

Talking about numbers: Our minimal wage is R$937,00, which to USD would convert to U$286,82 (dollar 3x+). A retail game for example goes with a whooping R$200,00+ price. That's half of a minimal wage. The thing doesn't end there. Every single item in a legit store goes with three digits, so people choose to go to well known places when you can get your clothes and some equipment at a cheaper price even it means a cheaper product.

I'm not in such a terrible situation, but if I would pay for everything that I had access one day, I would already have spent thousands of dollars just for a single fraction. So there's my first reason, to hunt the content I wish for and pay when I see worth it or I don't have other options. Thanks to this habit, I learned stuff that I would otherwise wouldn't. I've enjoyed stuff that I am legit unable too and discovered a whole knew level on internet.
 

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Like some, it's for economy reasons.

In Brazil things are way expensive and the general wage is too low for keeping a family running in a healthy situation. The funny part is that we have piracy hand by hand, not only on digital products, but physical as well. It's just impossible to buy everything retail and legit and expect to have some money to pay the bills. It's just too much taxes. News channels always are blaming our piracy tendency but they always avoid the problems that leads to that.

Talking about numbers: Our minimal wage is R$937,00, which to USD would convert to U$286,82 (dollar 3x+). A retail game for example goes with a whooping R$200,00+ price. That's half of a minimal wage. The thing doesn't end there. Every single item in a legit store goes with three digits, so people choose to go to well known places when you can get your clothes and some equipment at a cheaper price even it means a cheaper product.

I'm not in such a terrible situation, but if I would pay for everything that I had access one day, I would already have spent thousands of dollars just for a single fraction. So there's my first reason, to hunt the content I wish for and pay when I see worth it or I don't have other options. Thanks to this habit, I learned stuff that I would otherwise wouldn't. I've enjoyed stuff that I am legit unable too and discovered a whole knew level on internet.
Root cause needs to be addressed for piracy to become almost non-existent and most main stream media outlets don't want to address it because launching attacks is all they care about my honest belief the war on anything just leads to more of it not less such backwards thinking however some company's such as Spotify for example seek to address the root cause "IT'S THE ECONOMY" making music cheaper to access has really helped many in college, the waitress, babysitter, cashier and the list goes on of people who can now afford and access music and also on-demand.
 
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